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A Huge Victory! Gay marriage bill suffers a decisive defeat in N.Y. State Senate
The Washington Post reports:
NEW YORK -- Opponents of gay marriage celebrated a decisive vote in the New York State Senate, where a proposal to legalize same-sex marriage was defeated 38 to 24 on Wednesday.
The unexpectedly wide margin was delivered in a relatively liberal state where the other chamber of the legislature has thrice approved the measure and the governor, David A. Paterson, had been poised to sign it into law. The vote prompted pronouncements that the momentum for gay marriage had been not only halted, but also effectively reversed. Same-sex marriage is legal in Iowa, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut and, most recently, New Hampshire, where it goes into effect Jan. 1.
"I think you put it all together and it most likely spells the end of the idea that you can pass gay marriage democratically anywhere else in the United States," said Maggie Gallagher, president of the National Organization for Marriage, which spearheaded opposition in Albany. "I think the gay marriage lobby will have to go back to a court-based approach.
"We did believe they were short at least five votes, but we did not expect to win by 14 votes."
Opponents said New York lawmakers heeded the outcome of a Nov. 3 ballot measure in Maine, where voters repealed a gay marriage law before it went into effect.
"And there was what we like to call 'the Dede effect,' '' Gallagher said.
The phrase is a reference to Dede Scozzafava, the Republican candidate who dropped out of a special election in New York's 23rd Congressional District in the face of a strong challenge from Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. The National Organization for Marriage said its poll indicated that half of Hoffman's supporters gravitated toward him because of Scozzafava's support for gay marriage.
The seat was won by a Democrat who supports civil unions, but not marriage, for same-sex couples.
"I think Upstate Democrats had to be feeling the heat on this deal," said Jason McGuire, executive director of New Yorkers for Constitutional Freedoms, a lobby that represents many evangelical and Pentecostal churches. "New York 23 really showed that conservatism is not dead."
Supporters of same-sex marriage were taken aback by the margin but insisted that calling for the vote clarified the realpolitik behind the roll call.
"We had long called for a public debate on this matter so we could determine who was truly on our side," said the Empire State Pride Agenda in a statement. "If you cannot support us, we will find candidates for public office who do."
The National Organization for Marriage, which is based in New Jersey but has offices in Virginia, was even more explicit, warning ahead of the vote that it would raise $500,000 to defeat any Republican senator who broke ranks on the issue. The heading on the group's news release read: "Vote for Gay Marriage and We Will Fund a Primary Challenge."
Gallagher said the group spent $600,000 opposing the effort, mostly on robo-calls in districts of senators thought to be on the fence.
She said, "This helps us in New Hampshire," where a coalition that includes Catholic bishops will attempt to reverse the same-sex marriage law as that state's legislative election season opens.
"We might even make it in Vermont," Gallagher added.
NEW YORK -- Opponents of gay marriage celebrated a decisive vote in the New York State Senate, where a proposal to legalize same-sex marriage was defeated 38 to 24 on Wednesday.
The unexpectedly wide margin was delivered in a relatively liberal state where the other chamber of the legislature has thrice approved the measure and the governor, David A. Paterson, had been poised to sign it into law. The vote prompted pronouncements that the momentum for gay marriage had been not only halted, but also effectively reversed. Same-sex marriage is legal in Iowa, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut and, most recently, New Hampshire, where it goes into effect Jan. 1.
"I think you put it all together and it most likely spells the end of the idea that you can pass gay marriage democratically anywhere else in the United States," said Maggie Gallagher, president of the National Organization for Marriage, which spearheaded opposition in Albany. "I think the gay marriage lobby will have to go back to a court-based approach.
"We did believe they were short at least five votes, but we did not expect to win by 14 votes."
Opponents said New York lawmakers heeded the outcome of a Nov. 3 ballot measure in Maine, where voters repealed a gay marriage law before it went into effect.
"And there was what we like to call 'the Dede effect,' '' Gallagher said.
The phrase is a reference to Dede Scozzafava, the Republican candidate who dropped out of a special election in New York's 23rd Congressional District in the face of a strong challenge from Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. The National Organization for Marriage said its poll indicated that half of Hoffman's supporters gravitated toward him because of Scozzafava's support for gay marriage.
The seat was won by a Democrat who supports civil unions, but not marriage, for same-sex couples.
"I think Upstate Democrats had to be feeling the heat on this deal," said Jason McGuire, executive director of New Yorkers for Constitutional Freedoms, a lobby that represents many evangelical and Pentecostal churches. "New York 23 really showed that conservatism is not dead."
Supporters of same-sex marriage were taken aback by the margin but insisted that calling for the vote clarified the realpolitik behind the roll call.
"We had long called for a public debate on this matter so we could determine who was truly on our side," said the Empire State Pride Agenda in a statement. "If you cannot support us, we will find candidates for public office who do."
The National Organization for Marriage, which is based in New Jersey but has offices in Virginia, was even more explicit, warning ahead of the vote that it would raise $500,000 to defeat any Republican senator who broke ranks on the issue. The heading on the group's news release read: "Vote for Gay Marriage and We Will Fund a Primary Challenge."
Gallagher said the group spent $600,000 opposing the effort, mostly on robo-calls in districts of senators thought to be on the fence.
She said, "This helps us in New Hampshire," where a coalition that includes Catholic bishops will attempt to reverse the same-sex marriage law as that state's legislative election season opens.
"We might even make it in Vermont," Gallagher added.
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Permalink Reply by Anthony Steele on -
Do your best to present yourself to God as a tried-and-true worker who isn’t ashamed to teach the word of truth correctly. Avoid pointless discussions. People who pay attention to these pointless discussions will become more ungodly, and what they say will spread like cancer. Remind believers about these things, and warn them in the sight of God not to quarrel over words. Quarreling doesn’t do any good but only destroys those who are listening. 2 Timothy 2:15 GOD'S WORD Translation (GWT)
22 Stay away from lusts which tempt young people. Pursue what has God’s approval. Pursue faith, love, and peace together with those who worship the Lord with a pure heart. 23 Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments. You know they cause quarrels. 24 A servant of the Lord must not quarrel. Instead, he must be kind to everyone. He must be a good teacher. He must be willing to suffer wrong. 25 He must be gentle in correcting those who oppose the Good News. Maybe God will allow them to change the way they think and act and lead them to know the truth. 26 Then they might come back to their senses and God will free them from the devil’s snare so that they can do his will.
I mean, its one thing to stand up for your what you believe...but, all this crazy talk & arguing should stop. Just pray for these people & pray that God changes their hearts. Don't get caught up in the argument and don't lose focus on God...He will pass judgement on all of us when its our time.
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Permalink Reply by Sonya Marie on -
Aww on that note this is my last comment lol I love this site!
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Permalink Reply by Jason on -
Same here. I think all that needs to be said has been said on this topic from both sides of the argument. Arguing is really just pointless because none of us are going to change each others minds on the issue.
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Permalink Reply by Catherine Elizabeth Garrett on -
This is my last comment, god bless you all even if you are all close minded.
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Permalink Reply by Jason on
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May God bless you as well. Though I don't believe anyone here is being close-minded.
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Permalink Reply by Catherine Elizabeth Garrett on
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I agree with chris. I am against abortion, because there actually is a logical argument behind it.
With gay marriage, there is no death, just 2 people who love eachother.
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